If you were a delegate chosen at a local level to represent the Republican Party at the national convention and then you were forced to sign a affidavit in support of Mitt Romney would you sign?
Delegates in the state of Massachusetts have been "disqualified" from attending the national convention in Tampa because they failed to sign a pledge to support Mitt Romney. Most of the delegates have been identified as supporters of Ron Paul.
From the Boston Globe:
Evan Kenney had just turned 18 and registered to vote for the first time when he campaigned to be an alternate delegate to the Republican National Convention. Lauding Ronald Reagan’s principles and blasting Keynesian economics at the Lynnfield caucus in April, the Wakefield High School senior beat out several well-known Massachusetts Republicans, including the party’s most recent nominee for governor, Charles D. Baker Jr.
But earlier this month, Kenney was one of 17 delegates and alternates disqualified by a Republican committee deciding who gets to represent Massachusetts Republicans at the national convention in Tampa. Kenney and others had failed to deliver in time an affidavit swearing, under the penalty of perjury, that they would support Mitt Romney’s nomination for president.
An affidavit is never mentioned in the Republican Party’s rules for selecting delegates and has never been required of delegates in the past, GOP critics say. Suspicions are steep this year because Kenney and the others are supporters of Ron Paul, the libertarian candidate whose quixotic campaign for president culminated in an effort to take over state caucuses nationwide. The delegates must vote for Romney, based on his strong primary win in Massachusetts, but Paul’s supporters hope to use the convention to draw attention to his agenda, including auditing the Federal Reserve and requiring wars to be declared by Congress.
It is interesting to see that the Romney campaign has to result to thug tactics to ensure that he receives the nomination for President. When did we start living in a country that would stifle people's right to vote, whether that is in a nominating process or a electoral process?
The tactics that have been used by the Romney people are a big reason why a lot of people like myself have a very hard time trying to lend our support to this candidate. We stand on principle and when you are trying to pull information into your head as to why I should support Mitt Romney here comes a story like this that just changes the whole situation.
Romney=Pathetic!
WAIT, WAIT, WAIT... Let me get this straight. You wrote this article to contend that "It is interesting to see that the Romney campaign has to result to THUG TACTICS to ensure that he receives the nomination for President. When did we start living in a country that would stifle people's right to vote, whether that is in a nominating process or a electoral process?" So what you are stating is that somehow it is wrong that Romney won the majority support of the voters and that the Republican party is attempting to protect the WILL OF THE VOTERS and the integrity of the nomination process from a subversive group of minority Ron Paul supporters in their attempt to replace legitimately earned Romney delegates with unearned Ron Paul supporters? So you think that ensuring the correct numbers of delegates are sent to the convention based on the votes of the public is WRONG and that it is NOT THUG TACTICS that Ron Paul and his supporters are trying to impose their will and their choice of nominee onto the republican party? It's the INTENT of the delegate system to represent the WILL OF THE PEOPLE not the will of the LOSERS. It's amazing how far from reality you have positioned yourself. Ron Paul STEALING the nomination will DESTROY his chance of winning the presidency, hand another 4 years to Obama, and catastrophically damage his "revolution" and the great message he is promoting.
ReplyDeleteWAIT, WAIT, WAIT... Let me get this straight. You know there's a set of rules that are established for the process. But when you don't get the results you want, like Al Gore, you then want to alter the rules so that you do. I submitted testimony on this very problem when Al Gore lost Florida and wanted to change the rules and alter interpretations to his benefit. As you know, he went on to support the "global warming concensus" that was obtained by only counting people who supported their political agenda. So, now you want to do that with the Republican primary process in support of Mitt Romney. Why don't you just go live in Communist China or whatever, where you don't have to fudge around with any sort of democratic process; much less the very complicated American process.
DeleteSo Mr. Gay, you would agree that a MAJORITY of voters support Romney and voted FOR him but you think that because there is a way for Ron Paul to get the nomination HE COULDN'T EARN on his own thru his message that it is somehow OK to take the nomination away from the legitimate winner and give it to the LOSER!!! How is that not a communist tactic. You are the one trying to FUDGE around with the results because YOU did not get what YOU, the ignorant MINORITY wanted. Why not just stand outside the polling areas with a gun and only allow Ron Paul supporters to vote? That would satisfy your agenda right? The majority voted FOR ROMNEY, I did not!!! But it is WRONG for the losers to subvert the system (thru a legitimate loop-hole or other means) in order to get their desired outcome instead of that of the VOTERS!!! Get a life and use your brain!!!
DeleteI'm sure the talking points you're copy-pasting here will be repeated elsewhere ad infinitum; but point #1 an extremely important point, is that we have no verification that Mitt Romney won a majority in any state. He started out as the most unpopular candidate, entrance and exit polls have shown results far different than the ones counted in secret and then reported. But have you investigated why the process is the way it is? I'd guess not, since you're simply copy-pasting Romney campaign talking points. Perhaps you can take a basic course in American democracy somewhere, if it's offered. We don't even use the "popular vote" in the general election. Delegates are what counts. It's not a loop hole. It's not a cheat. Now if you don't like the way the system works, calling people names who are corrupt or stupid enough to shill for Romney isn't going to change anything. You'll need to take your complaint to the USSC, where they'll likely tell you to buzz off. After that fails, you can try for a constitutional amendment. Here's where your big surprise will come. You'll likely find more friends and supporters for the right proposal among Ron Paul supporters than among others. But my guess is that you're not going to do any of that. For some reason, you're happy enough that Mitt Romney might get the R nomination. More than that, you seem willing to fight anyone who might get in the way. So, make up your mind. Either you're for the status quo, or you're against it. You can't have it both ways.
Delete"We stand on principle"? REALLY? REALLY? I'm trying to understand the "principle" behind taking a nomination EARNED by Romney and handing that to Ron Paul. I'm trying to understand the "principle" behind having the WILL OF THE PEOPLE replaced by the WILL OF RON PAUL SUPPORTERS. I LOVE Ron Paul's message but I LOVE the Constitution and Freedom more so I am having a hard time agreeing with this premise that protecting the WILL OF THE VOTERS is somehow "thug tactics" and that replacing the earned delegates with a subversive group of supporters of the losing candidate is not STIFLING the voting process. Ron Paul Drones AMAZE me. You promote this freedom and "do what's right" agenda then you stand in support of tactics like this which are just as bad , if not worse, that liberal-progressive tactics. In fact the whole Ron Paul support confuses me because here you have someone who champions small government principles but refuses to adhere to them himself. Someone who demands fiscal responsibility and the end of earmarks from others but then commits the same "crimes' against our country but hides behind a "well that's the way the system works" mentality. Ron Paul says earmarks are evil but that he HAS to use them to bring money to his district because that's just the way the system works. And you all excuse that mentality. Vote for Ron Paul because keeping job is more important than his principles. I'm sorry, but I want real leadership not Ron Paul.
ReplyDeleteFirst off the votes in Iowa were counted at an undislosed location , first time for Iowa, Ron Paul was winning he polls in the election lead up or coming in # 2 , thousands of people attend his rallies and he comes in 3rd in Iowa? A state controlled by Ron Paul supporters? Ron Paul WON Iowa, Maine, NV, CO, NH,...etc. There is FRAUD, plain and simple but leave that aside when you vote in a convention you are voting for the DELEGATE, not the candidate. The DELEGATE decides who is best for the gop, period. Mob rule is not what the founders intended and the gop would be wise to listen to the Ron Paul delegates because only Ron Paul can defeat obama. flip flop guarantees 4 more years of obama
DeleteThe only FRAUD is delegates claiming to be supporters of Romney but actually having an agenda of voting for the LOSER Ron Paul. If POLLS were anything legitimate we would count them as fact and not some quasi-scientific form of election day entertainment. POLLS MEAN SQUAT!!! Did Ron Paul or Mitt Romney WIN? Oh yeah Ron Paul did, just a bunch of Romney supporters are out there trying to subvert the nomination process. It's so nice to know that all those who support the winner, Ron Paul, are being HONEST and not trying to lie in order to get that LOSER Romney the nomination against the will of the people. I mean, can you imagine the OUTRAGE if Ron Paul were to actually lose the nomination to a subversive minority group trying to take over the party and decide the outcome. It would be so bad for Romney to be handed the nomination thru THUG TACTICS like that, how badly would he lose to Obama when the republican voters see that their legitimate choice Ron Paul had the nomination stolen from him. How many Ron Paul supporters would REFUSE to vote for Romney if that really happens. Oh wait, that's not what's happening...
DeleteThere is no confirmation at all that Mitt Romney has ever won a state by popular vote or otherwise. We keep getting vote count results where all the counting was done in secret by "establishment", presumptive Romney supporters; all the while getting other information such as entrance and exit polls, head counts, etc. showing wildly different results. In the caucuses, they've switched delegate slates and have been caught. In one state, they abandoned the GOP primary entirely, set up a "shadow party" with only Romney supporters, and are trying to get their delegates recognized in Tampa in place of the official GOP delegates. All this Ron Paul is popular and Mitt Romney is not has been confirmed again and again and again. If it seems unreasonable to you when someone says that, then you just haven't been paying attention.
DeleteThe delegates should file with these guys,http://electionfraudremedy.com/, because that is what it is.
ReplyDeleteThe law and the rules are that some delegates are selected at caucuses, but that they have to vote for the winner of the primary on the first ballot at the convention. So these delegates would do just that. They can vote for whomever they choose on subsequent ballots, but if Romney wins the nomination on the first, that's a moot point.
ReplyDeleteHowever, delegates will debate and vote on the platform. That's where Ron Paul wants a voice: to get his views heard, at least on the Platform Committee. Now that's where the choke point is. It appears that the leadership of Mass. GOP doesn't want an "establishment" platform challenged or changed.
The delegates were chosen based upon their professed support for Romney. The Mass GOP caught wind of their fraudulent scheme and asked them to affirm their professed support for Romeny by signing an affidavit of support for the candidate for which they claimed to support (Romney). Once those who conspired to defraud the voters were faced with this choice and came to the harsh realization that the jig was up, they then tried to flip the script and claim that THEY were the ones being disenfranchised.
ReplyDeleteThose loons are the loons who give Ron Paul supporters a bad name. SMH.