By Roger F. Gay
Fed up with lack of support for their
Chosen One, “establishment” operatives have decided to bypass the Nevada Republican Party apparatus in favor their own “shadow
state party.” In other words, they've dropped out of the official
Republican race and are launching a new highly exclusive minority
party in support of Mitt Romney.
This is the first overwhelming public
display we've seen that the establishment believes Romney is losing the nomination race and the first ever indication that he would consider
running through a third party. The short term problem however, is an
extension of the longer term problem that has plagued the entire
Republican nomination process; “establishment” cheating.
Indications are that they will want the
new third party in Nevada recognized by the RNC as a replacement
for the existing Republican Party. Things didn't go their way so they
want to construct a fake body with fake results and just drop it in
place of the real thing. It's a very strange and extremely public
attempt at stuffing the ballot box. Just bring your own box, complete
with whatever you want inside and set it down in place of the real
one.
The move may actually get RNC support.
It occurs amidst calls for RNC Chairman Reince Priebus to resign for
treating Romney as the “presumptive nominee,” violating party
rules against supporting any individual candidate who has not yet
secured nomination.
The third party approach is obviously
extraordinary on its face. It's something that couldn't possibly work
for Romney without this extra dimension of overt fraud. You look at
the enormous support that Ron Paul has and can naturally wonder if he'd
run third party if he doesn't get the Republican nomination. He's a
strong enough candidate that it could make sense. In contrast, Romney
doesn't have any real support except from some of the people
who have been allowed to count the votes.
Let Romney go.. we didn't need hin anyway. Ron Paul all the way!!
ReplyDeleteI wish Romney would drop out! It sure would make things a lot easier!! If he really cared about this country he would! Ron Paul is the one our country needs right now!
DeleteMitt the Flipp isnt eligible for one,,,and secondly,,hes facing two counts of felonies...One for a 9 billion dollar ponzi scheme his son and he were part of...court in june..the other is a campaign felony in Wi. He was buying votes with subs...and everyone seen it..He will be convicted on that one,,and he will not be on the ballot in nov...The RNC knows this,,just cant figure out what they are planning
DeleteThis is incredible....We thought that RON would be the one to go third-party, not Mitt!
DeleteI agree with those for supporting Paul! Think about this: Palin, Rush and more have supported Romney..what does that tell you of their character? The GOP/RNC and I have had a couple of rounds and they are not nice people..they don't know any manners at all!!! I do agree that the head of the RNC should resign..he was nothing but a toad put in there to do what the RNC wanted and that was and is Romney. The GOP/RNC should be ashamed! They have been nasty, critical, etc., like many American voters, of the fraud now in the Oval Office! Well, the RNC tried to put another illegal in the same Office..what does one make of that? I hope we all find a petition and yell at the top of our lungs for the entire RNC body to be dismantled and start over with truly good, honest and respectful people of the people..Romney is no more than a Mexican wetback just as Hussein is an Arab/black/white breed; I am a breed but of different cultures..am I special..no, not at all, just another peon trying to help her country toward better times for the future generations and those that are here now.
DeleteI will go for that. Romney is juat another Odumba.
DeleteNevada, not Nebraska.
ReplyDeleteYeah, well, they both start with N. What difference does it make? lol ... just kidding. changed it. Thanks.
Deletebullshit sensationalist headline. why do you have to lie? i know the mainstream media does it, but we are supposed to have integrity.
ReplyDeleteThere's confirmation that he's dropping out of the Nevada Republican Party system ... as clearly stated in the article. That's dropping out. It really really is. And it's worthy of serious note at this point. In an effort to secure the nomination, the tricks and "shenanigans" have already gone through the extremes, like use of violence and distractions while running out the back door with the ballot box. It's going beyond that now .. very definitely ... to a place where there's a very clear and undeniable difference between the nominating process according to official party rules and what the Romney camp is doing. Dude! They're actually ignoring the real convention and holding their own ... just for Romney folks. That's not in the Republican Party process. It's OUTSIDE the process. I don't know how much clearer it can be that he's OUT of the process ... and that making this decision is "dropping OUT." It's not the same way the others dropped out ... maybe that's what's confusing.
DeleteI read, not sure of its authenticity, that Romney, like Hussein and Reid, has had the machines rigged taht when a vote is cast for Paul, it becomes one for Romney..another cheater, liar and gosh what else we do no..we need a good person in there...hear Randall Terry is on the DEM ballot..he is also a very good person...........
DeleteI don't think it needs to be that complicated at this point. Caucuses that were watched reported they hand wrote / reported the results they wanted rather than those based on actual votes cast. For much of the process, "establishment" people have been in charge of the whole process and they've done things behind closed doors, changed results later, etc. It hasn't been an open process.
DeleteI wish people would finally see the "partys" Dem Or Rep are private organizations cashing in big time come elections, from the federal government (taxpayer's money) and at the other end from the loyal voters supporting their candidates, they get fed I mean funded. The intricate rules have one purpose only: not to assure a fair and honest election, but that the "choosen" candidate is coming up on top, when that does not work, their "rules" facilitate the outcome and if needed fraud will smooth things over. Down with the "party" go vote your heart your passion and let the best man win. Ron Paul President 2012
ReplyDeleteI actually favor a real multi-party system. Doing without parties is theoretically interesting but I don't see any way to bring it about. Political parties are free speech and assembly, etc. Besides that, enforcing the Constitution's non-partisan system (if it were possible) would not likely reduce control by money. Only wealthy connected people would be able to run "independently" (in quotes for obvious reasons, I think).
DeleteI agree with the idea that a multi-party system would be great. Basically what we have right now is is akin to a monopoly shared by two established parties. While it is possible to have other parties there is so much overhead that they cant compete. Overhead that is conveniently not required for established parties. Its crony capitalism at its best (i mean worst). Use government to create licensing and other regulations making it impossible for start-ups to get hold in an industry.
DeleteIf the only real hurdle for getting a 3rd party to exist was to have enough people be interested in a particular platform, then there would be new parties all over the place. And, then, the established parties would have competition. Just as it is with businesses, large companies that don't need to compete get old and crusty and inefficient, and stop delivering what people actually want.
America has several parties ... Green, Constitution, Libertarian, ... they all have candidates, why aren't they on the ballot? Fees and other ridiculous requirements designed to make everyone think there really are only 2 choices.
I think you really need a proper system of proportional representation to make it work. The winner takes all approach provides the excuse for media to not cover "third parties" ... a term unique to the US's de facto "two party system." The constitution would have to be changed in support of party participation in elections .. a party receiving 25% of the votes for example, would get 25% of the seats. States can do the same thing. This can be done either simply to elect the members of the legislature, or combined with a parliamentary system to elect a Prime Minister or whatever as part of this process. Preserving as much of the current system as possible, it might just obviously apply to the election of the Speaker of the House for example ... which matches the way things work already.
DeleteYou are 100% right!!!! Let me add to your great comment: Has any other Republican or Democrat, Liberatarian, etc. ever consistently supported the Constitution for 26 years? This fine Republican, this fine person has never turned his back on America nor the citizens..yet, many say he has never written a bill that has passed, never did this, never did that...two things for you that question what he has or has not done. How would we know of a bill he wrote or tried to pass..as a Constitutional representative, it is doubtful if any House would have allowed it to make it to the floor for a vote...never a discussion I would venture. In 1997 Paul wrote the American Restoration Freedom Act (I believe that was the full name), it would have gotten the USA out of the Agenda 21 that is now upon us. It would not be allowed to the floor to even read is my understanding! How is that for our good old House wanting freedom from Tyranny? Now, for you that have not read the 40 Chapters of Agenda 21, I suggest you do so and then start yelling to get us out of the UN..it takes away your home, your property, pets, domestic stock, whatever...you get nothing except "kicked" out and you do it at once. It is a complete takeover of the USA...take our oil as another example..the Marxist in office has been hollering "green." How green is Ethanol when it has had the ravaging effects upon the forests and other lands in Brazil; how green is it when our flora cannot clean the emissions from same from the air? We breathe the air that the flora cleans. Think it through..you will figure it out without the science teachers teaching you what you need to know here. How "green" is Chemical warfare (Chemtrails), killing all that is below the planes deliverying anything from aluminum sulfate and plastic infused with barium, to chromium, to arsenic? There is a reason...within the Agenda the USA, under Hussein has been and is protecting "our national" oil reserves for this very reason..a sell out to China and gosh only knows who else. Why else double the price of gasoline...we will use less and that means more for his commie friends. Last but certainly not least, how about a candidate stating, "I would support the NDAA." Paul all the way!
DeleteWhen they start giving me that bill counting nonsense, I remind them that it's Obama that complains about the "do nothing" Congress and how they're not helping him "get things done in Washington." Voting against things has been the best representation of the people anyone could give.
DeleteThank you people for making this easy to understand. I recognize all the parts and it's nice to read them all joined together.
DeletePriebus should step down. How unethical can the RNC get? This sets a terrifying precedent. Even if you support Romney, you should be able to understand how this circumvents the Republic's process.
ReplyDeleteNicely put. Adding to that: "Elections, even when carried out by private organizations, are not some form of analysis based on presumptions. They are processes carried out to determine what the actual outcome will be. Any process carried out to enforce a presuptive outcome does not logically qualify as an election."
DeleteState Legislatures Should Assign Their Delegates to Ron Paul
http://www.libertarian-examiner.com/2012/05/state-legislatures-should-assign-their.html
As rotten as the DNC...the Bush family is tied financially to the bin Laden family!
DeleteBush isn't running this year and Obama personally drove a golf cart to the middle east and killed bin Laden.
DeleteEven if Romney wins the nomination and then wins in November in 50 + DC, he won't get any votes in December in the Electoral College, because Ron Paul supporters will be the electors. I explained the process in a video a few months ago at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ4IhMPhkYw
ReplyDeleteI was first a little peeved at this sensational headline, then thought about how the media treated Dr Paul when he announced he wouldn't be campaigning in the remaining Primary states (choosing to spend on getting delegates). While AP probably won't pick up this headline, it's tit for tat.
ReplyDeleteConsidering the shadow government we operate under now, it doesn't surprise me they would create a shadow party within the Republican Party. While the media relishes in labeling Paul supporters as Paul People, then translates to the uninformed as "Paulbots" "Paulistas" and even "Paultards", it is actually better defined as Constitutional Republicans. Nothing "shadowy" about that. It's pretty easy to find a copy of the Constitution online or off, but much harder to find leadership who actually feels compelled to honor it.
"Those damn Constitutional Republicans, who do they think they are, shoving that Constitution down our throats"? ;)
What are the odds that Mitt has things in his past that Obama will uncover that will make him ineligible? Could Paul find himself the nominee, running against an opponent that is in the middle of impeachment proceedings? Strange things are happening, stranger yet could still happen.
Money Bomb started today. Hit it hard, hit it early. Let's run this freedom train all the way to Tampa, and hopefully beyond.
RE: the "sensational" headline; Thanks for the comments. That's one level of understanding certainly. Can't say that the same thought didn't cross my mind. But I also believe there's a point at which any reasonable person should come to understand that cheating is outside the rules, outside the process. Where is that point for you? Let me be even more reasonable for the many who've been through the slow frog warm-up on these things. Where is the point at which it's gone too far to simply let it slide as cheating and call it something else? What's being discussed in this article must be beyond that point, IMO. They're actually creating an alternative organization and process. It's not even the state Republican Party that's involved in this. It's some people doing something entirely outside the system. Isn't that far OUT enough for you to recognize it as OUT?
DeleteRE: "Paulbots"
How to Become a Paulbot
http://www.libertarian-examiner.com/2011/12/how-to-become-paulbot.html
I mean, at some point you have to stop mumbling "enough is enough, maybe" and recognize that what's going on is NOT the actual Republican race for the nomination, described by the party rules.
DeleteMitt is illegal to run...his dad was not born in the USA..he is a "nationalized" citizen..there is a big, huge difference my friend.
DeleteThe problem with the headline is that people are sharing it online as if Romney has pulled out of the election... not just out of Nevada. Otherwise I agree with the article its just causing dumb discussions in social media now. People don't read they share headlines these days. lol
ReplyDeleteAh, I can understand that. It's pretty frustrating for writers ... you do all the hard work and then you figure people will spend a couple minutes reading it. Serves 'em right if they get it wrong. lol ...
DeleteSHOULD WE... http://www.dailypaul.com//234414/ban-gop-shadow-party-organizations
ReplyDeleteI already know that I won't vote for Romney no matter what. I was already making that clear back in 2008. So, I can't threaten them with that really. I know I'm far from being alone. From the way things look right now, giving the nomination to Romney is guaranteeing that Obama gets four more years.
DeleteWell, as rotten as Hussein has and continues to, treat our military..they say they will vote for Hussein if Romney is the candidate.
DeleteOn another note..they want me to prove I am not a robot..I don't think a robot would look as awful as myself...
Am I the only one who sees the irony that this primary race is playing out like 'Revenge of the Nerds'
ReplyDeletewhere the jocks dressed in drag are finally stomping the ground in frustration realizing how ridiculous
they are?? Romney is the hairspray candidate of the GOP and he can't win without the Paul Vote - but he
won't get it no matter what.
It's Ron Paul or NOTHING at all!!
You WILL NOT get my vote for any other Republican. If Ron Paul doesn't win the GOP, I will not be voting
for president; that simple. GOP fraudsters get a clue!! You may need us to beat Obama - but we don't need
you because all you've got to offer is more of the same, and we're sick of it!
Ron Paul 2012!!
Write him in !
ReplyDeleteHe mentions "therealdelegatecount2012.com" .... Doesnt look like this website exists... anyone else able to find it? I want to see what he's talking about!!!
ReplyDeleteI don't know who mentioned it but: http://thereal2012delegatecount.com/
DeleteI like G. Edward Griffin's description much better.
ReplyDeleteThe Romney faction of the Nevada Republican Party has lost out to the Ron Paul faction. Instead of accepting reality, they are planning to form a new party, call it Republican, and ask the national Republican leaders to recognize it as the official Nevada party, thereby disenfranchising the Ron Paul majority. [Since the national Republican leadership is committed to Romney, the plan could work.]
It certainly does summarize what I said.
DeleteRomney is a RINO of the worst kind. He is dangerous. Thee "establishment" pick. At present both parties have merged as one. Would love to see a third party run. The Country knows what Romney is,there is no excitement. Romney=aka obama, aka obama=Romney.
ReplyDeleteCan we take over the new shadow party too?
ReplyDeleteProbably, if they even publicly announce where they meet.
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